Oct 18 2004, 02:32 PM
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Oct 18 2004, 05:50 PM
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From my angry ramblings at another Cartoon Faroum yesterday:
It seems that all this talk about how the Tom & Jerry 2-item DVD set will be uncut and uncensored is just a bunch of cr*p !!!!!! Not only do we not get Mammy Two-Shoes, but the blackface gags from three cartoons seem to have been cut as well. This is the worst piece of animation news in months. What happened to all the promises that this will be an uncut, uncensored collector's edition DVD set? Are people at Warner Bros really this clueless? God, I am so freakin' angry... I am not buying this set now..Even though I have really been lookin' forward to this release, I am in no way going to support a big corporation's ignorance, arrogance, perfidious-ness, cluelessness, patronization, etc. What's the point of this set, I wonder? There were less cuts on TOM & JERRY'S GREATEST CHASES. This is truly unacceptable. We should tell Warner Bros how we feel about this. Again, I want this set so badly, but I don't want to support this outrageous butchering of classical animation, especially when it is advertised that we are getting uncut originals. They must know about Disney Tresures at Warner Bros by now. If they are so afraid of offending someone, why don't they let Leonard Maltin (or Jerry Beck in this case) properly contextualize these cartoons ??!!! The truth is - various marginalized groups are not the ones who get offended by these stupid cartoony gags - it is the hypocritical liberal white people who give themselves the right to get offended ON BEHALF OF OTHER GROUPS. If WB wants to hide Mammy Two-Shoes- FINE! Don't include her in the set! If they don't want to show black-face gags - FINE! Don't include cartoons with these gags in the set! But, don't give us altered, censored, butchered episodes with all the quasi-offensive material removed and, then, claim that you're giving us uncut and uncensored collector's DVDs !!!!!! First it was FANTASIA. Then, REN & STIMPY. Now TOM & JERRY. This is really, really too much and it insults my intelligence waaaaaaay more than any ethnic/racial/violent/sexist gag from the 1930s or 1940s!!!! |
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LooneyThad Tom & Jerry DVD Censored! Oct 18 2004, 02:32 PM
The Super Star Um, Thad. You Do Realize that you've posted t... Oct 18 2004, 04:14 PM
damfino QUOTE (The Super Star @ Oct 18 2004, 08:14 AM... Oct 18 2004, 04:33 PM
JERRY BECK QUOTE (damfino @ Oct 18 2004, 09:33 AM)Jerry ... Oct 18 2004, 04:53 PM
LastOfTheDoDos Ugh! I want to watch the DVDs NOW, not waste ... Oct 18 2004, 05:44 PM
rkish I agree Gordan! We just have to hope that eith... Oct 18 2004, 06:02 PM
The Super Star In Any Case, This probably was some kind of Oversi... Oct 18 2004, 06:33 PM
RyanM Well at least Warner seems willing to fix it which... Oct 18 2004, 06:47 PM
Gordan QUOTE (The Super Star @ Oct 18 2004, 10:33 AM... Oct 18 2004, 06:54 PM
LastOfTheDoDos Amen to brother Gordan!
The sentiments of ang... Oct 18 2004, 08:11 PM
Little Red Henski Wasn't there also some mysterious censorship o... Oct 18 2004, 08:58 PM
BPearce QUOTE (The Super Star @ Oct 18 2004, 10:33 AM... Oct 18 2004, 09:38 PM
The Super Star QUOTE (BPearce @ Oct 18 2004, 01:38 PM)QUOTE ... Oct 18 2004, 09:52 PM
arturo_gtz QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 18 2004, 08:53 AM)QUO... Oct 19 2004, 04:07 AM
JERRY BECK QUOTE (arturo_gtz @ Oct 18 2004, 09:07 PM)Mr.... Oct 19 2004, 05:43 AM
arturo_gtz QUOTE (Gordan @ Oct 18 2004, 09:50 AM)This is... Oct 19 2004, 01:40 PM
The Super Star I Guess that Means there'll be no Mammy Cartoo... Oct 19 2004, 03:49 PM
babylove While it didn't say "uncut" on the back of the... Oct 19 2004, 04:14 PM
jeff_schiller Why don't we just all wait and see what's ... Oct 19 2004, 04:23 PM
babylove One thing I should add is that it's not uncomm... Oct 19 2004, 04:37 PM
FuriousFreddy Giving the DVD a quick once-over...
I went straig... Oct 19 2004, 05:09 PM
Scaramanga QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 19 2004, 07:09 PM)... Oct 19 2004, 05:26 PM
Scaramanga PS. The song is called "Frere Jacques" Oct 19 2004, 05:30 PM
FuriousFreddy Thanks for the typo fix
...and "Touche, Pussy Ca... Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM
Am01ne I'm waiting on any purchases until Jerry's... Oct 19 2004, 06:39 PM
Scaramanga QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 19 2004, 08:02 PM)... Oct 19 2004, 06:47 PM
FuriousFreddy Conspiracy theory time:
Maybe (just maybe) WB did... Oct 19 2004, 06:55 PM
Scaramanga That's the way I kinda feel too ... I guess I ... Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM
RobEB So what about the supplements? Any good? Oct 19 2004, 08:16 PM
duck dodgers QUOTE (Scaramanga @ Oct 19 2004, 10:47 AM)QUO... Oct 19 2004, 08:16 PM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (RobEB @ Oct 19 2004, 12:16 PM)So what ... Oct 19 2004, 08:34 PM
LooneyThad I wasn't expecting even THIS much for a DVD le... Oct 19 2004, 08:59 PM
duck dodgers after all,it's(hopefully) a matter of days and... Oct 19 2004, 09:36 PM
LastOfTheDoDos What's saddest is not that we here know there ... Oct 19 2004, 11:04 PM
arturo_gtz There's no doubt... the best classic shorts co... Oct 20 2004, 03:05 AM
JERRY BECK Warner Bros. Home Video is very, very upset over t... Oct 20 2004, 03:47 AM
jeff_schiller QUOTE (arturo_gtz @ Oct 19 2004, 07:05 PM)The... Oct 20 2004, 03:51 AM
jeff_schiller QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 07:47 PM)War... Oct 20 2004, 03:52 AM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (LooneyThad @ Oct 19 2004, 12:59 PM)I w... Oct 20 2004, 03:52 AM
CaptGeorge Darned if you do, darned if don't -- eh, Jerry... Oct 20 2004, 03:56 AM
JERRY BECK QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 19 2004, 08:52 PM)... Oct 20 2004, 04:02 AM
jinxey QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 10:47 PM)I k... Oct 20 2004, 04:34 AM
JERRY BECK QUOTE (jinxey @ Oct 19 2004, 09:34 PM)I bough... Oct 20 2004, 05:37 AM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 08:02 PM)QUO... Oct 20 2004, 05:45 AM
RyanM Thanks for the info, Jerry. I'll say it again,... Oct 20 2004, 06:07 AM
Scaramanga At least some good news comes our way ... I'm ... Oct 20 2004, 07:01 AM
Dr. Madcap QUOTE (Scaramanga @ Oct 20 2004, 05:01 PM)At ... Oct 20 2004, 07:26 AM
Dr. Madcap The Loolney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 2 that ... Oct 20 2004, 07:41 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE What's saddest is not that we here know ... Oct 20 2004, 07:42 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE There's no doubt... the best classic sho... Oct 20 2004, 07:48 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE Warner Bros. Home Video is very, very upset ... Oct 20 2004, 07:54 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 08:02 ... Oct 20 2004, 08:00 AM
Scaramanga This is probably a very stupid question but here g... Oct 20 2004, 01:32 PM
duck dodgers i still hope that this is an experiment to test th... Oct 20 2004, 01:53 PM
jeff_schiller I'm not sure what type of "artifacts" you... Oct 20 2004, 01:55 PM
Am01ne Mistakes are not above us, these things do happen ... Oct 20 2004, 02:24 PM
Am01ne And after typing all of that... I seriously hope t... Oct 20 2004, 02:33 PM
corey3rd QUOTE (duck dodgers @ Oct 20 2004, 05:53 AM)i... Oct 20 2004, 03:14 PM
Am01ne QUOTE (corey3rd @ Oct 20 2004, 07:14 AM)QUOTE... Oct 20 2004, 03:26 PM
Scaramanga QUOTE (jeff_schiller @ Oct 20 2004, 03:55 PM)... Oct 20 2004, 03:32 PM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (jeff_schiller @ Oct 20 2004, 05:55 AM)... Oct 20 2004, 03:33 PM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE So that basically comes down to the fact tha... Oct 20 2004, 03:41 PM
Scaramanga QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 20 2004, 05:33 PM)... Oct 20 2004, 03:46 PM
Scaramanga Argh ... in my above post again print and negative... Oct 20 2004, 03:53 PM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (Scaramanga @ Oct 20 2004, 07:46 AM)QUO... Oct 20 2004, 04:01 PM
Scaramanga Very interesting ... thx for the explenation ! Oct 20 2004, 04:42 PM
RobEB Despite the problems, this does sound like a good ... Oct 20 2004, 05:11 PM
Scaramanga The stereo track really is something .... I couldn... Oct 20 2004, 05:14 PM
markantii
So these cartoons are definately all-new transfe... Oct 20 2004, 05:26 PM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (RobEB @ Oct 20 2004, 09:11 AM)Despite ... Oct 20 2004, 05:34 PM
markantii Well as that's the case I think it's fair ... Oct 20 2004, 06:02 PM
LastOfTheDoDos Point taken re: Warner's customer care. They ... Oct 20 2004, 06:02 PM
rkish JERRY:
Can you shed any light as to what is invol... Oct 20 2004, 07:22 PM
JERRY BECK QUOTE (rkish @ Oct 20 2004, 12:22 PM)Can you ... Oct 20 2004, 09:33 PM
markantii Mr Beck, could you confirm what has been surmised ... Oct 20 2004, 09:53 PM
JERRY BECK Due to my working arrangement with Warner Home Vid... Oct 20 2004, 10:43 PM
shep70 Mr Beck could you confirm that there exist fullscr... Oct 20 2004, 10:48 PM
Studio Toledo QUOTE (corey3rd @ Oct 20 2004, 07:14 AM)QUOTE... Oct 20 2004, 11:57 PM
Studio Toledo QUOTE (Am01ne @ Oct 20 2004, 07:26 AM)QUOTE (... Oct 21 2004, 12:01 AM
Gordan A few years ago I went through the process of retu... Oct 21 2004, 12:48 AM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 20 2004, 02:43 PM)Due... Oct 21 2004, 01:32 AM
damfino QUOTE (Gordan @ Oct 20 2004, 04:48 PM)From my... Oct 21 2004, 02:23 AM
Gordan QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 20 2004, 05:32 PM)... Oct 21 2004, 02:26 AM
Gordan QUOTE (damfino @ Oct 20 2004, 06:23 PM)It wou... Oct 21 2004, 02:35 AM
Droopy79 To Jerry.
Am I right to assume that any Replaceme... Oct 21 2004, 06:41 AM
Scaramanga QUOTE (Am01ne @ Oct 20 2004, 05:26 PM)When Vo... Oct 21 2004, 06:53 AM
thebiach anybody else notice at the end of the "Kitty Foile... Oct 21 2004, 07:07 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE Actually, what we see on both the T&J and th... Oct 21 2004, 07:21 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE These ARE the original Technicolor prints we... Oct 21 2004, 07:28 AM
Studio Toledo
Heh, glad I didn't have any problems on my e... Oct 21 2004, 07:55 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE (Gordan @ Oct 20 2004, 06:26 PM)QUOTE (... Oct 21 2004, 08:03 AM
Studio Toledo QUOTE (thebiach @ Oct 20 2004, 11:07 PM)anybo... Oct 21 2004, 08:08 AM
noisejunkie I got my copy of the T&J set yesterday and while I... Oct 21 2004, 05:21 PM
Martin Juneau QUOTE (Studio Toledo @ Oct 20 2004, 11:55 PM)... Oct 21 2004, 07:58 PM
tnjfan Hello all, new poster here. First off let me just ... Oct 21 2004, 08:50 PM
jeff_schiller I count about 115 Tom & Jerry shorts. There are 4... Oct 21 2004, 09:21 PM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (noisejunkie @ Oct 21 2004, 09:21 AM)I ... Oct 21 2004, 09:21 PM
FuriousFreddy QUOTE (jeff_schiller @ Oct 21 2004, 01:21 PM)... Oct 21 2004, 09:34 PM
Am01ne From what Jerry and Warner Bros. have informed us ... Oct 21 2004, 09:39 PM![]() ![]() |
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