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LooneyThad
post Oct 18 2004, 02:32 PM
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All the details are here...

http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showth...hread.php?t=824


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post Oct 18 2004, 05:50 PM
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From my angry ramblings at another Cartoon Faroum yesterday:


It seems that all this talk about how the Tom & Jerry 2-item DVD set will be uncut and uncensored is just a bunch of cr*p !!!!!!

Not only do we not get Mammy Two-Shoes, but the blackface gags from three cartoons seem to have been cut as well.

This is the worst piece of animation news in months. What happened to all the promises that this will be an uncut, uncensored collector's edition DVD set? Are people at Warner Bros really this clueless?

God, I am so freakin' angry...

I am not buying this set now..Even though I have really been lookin' forward to this release, I am in no way going to support a big corporation's ignorance, arrogance, perfidious-ness, cluelessness, patronization, etc.

What's the point of this set, I wonder? There were less cuts on TOM & JERRY'S GREATEST CHASES.

This is truly unacceptable.

We should tell Warner Bros how we feel about this.

Again, I want this set so badly, but I don't want to support this outrageous butchering of classical animation, especially when it is advertised that we are getting uncut originals.

They must know about Disney Tresures at Warner Bros by now. If they are so afraid of offending someone, why don't they let Leonard Maltin (or Jerry Beck in this case) properly contextualize these cartoons ??!!!

The truth is - various marginalized groups are not the ones who get offended by these stupid cartoony gags - it is the hypocritical liberal white people who give themselves the right to get offended ON BEHALF OF OTHER GROUPS.

If WB wants to hide Mammy Two-Shoes- FINE! Don't include her in the set!
If they don't want to show black-face gags - FINE! Don't include cartoons with these gags in the set!

But, don't give us altered, censored, butchered episodes with all the quasi-offensive material removed and, then, claim that you're giving us uncut and uncensored collector's DVDs !!!!!!

First it was FANTASIA.
Then, REN & STIMPY.
Now TOM & JERRY.

This is really, really too much and it insults my intelligence waaaaaaay more than any ethnic/racial/violent/sexist gag from the 1930s or 1940s!!!!
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- LooneyThad   Tom & Jerry DVD Censored!   Oct 18 2004, 02:32 PM
- - The Super Star   Um, Thad. You Do Realize that you've posted t...   Oct 18 2004, 04:14 PM
- - damfino   QUOTE (The Super Star @ Oct 18 2004, 08:14 AM...   Oct 18 2004, 04:33 PM
- - JERRY BECK   QUOTE (damfino @ Oct 18 2004, 09:33 AM)Jerry ...   Oct 18 2004, 04:53 PM
- - LastOfTheDoDos   Ugh! I want to watch the DVDs NOW, not waste ...   Oct 18 2004, 05:44 PM
- - Gordan   From my angry ramblings at another Cartoon Faroum ...   Oct 18 2004, 05:50 PM
- - rkish   I agree Gordan! We just have to hope that eith...   Oct 18 2004, 06:02 PM
- - The Super Star   In Any Case, This probably was some kind of Oversi...   Oct 18 2004, 06:33 PM
- - RyanM   Well at least Warner seems willing to fix it which...   Oct 18 2004, 06:47 PM
- - Gordan   QUOTE (The Super Star @ Oct 18 2004, 10:33 AM...   Oct 18 2004, 06:54 PM
- - LastOfTheDoDos   Amen to brother Gordan! The sentiments of ang...   Oct 18 2004, 08:11 PM
- - Little Red Henski   Wasn't there also some mysterious censorship o...   Oct 18 2004, 08:58 PM
- - BPearce   QUOTE (The Super Star @ Oct 18 2004, 10:33 AM...   Oct 18 2004, 09:38 PM
- - The Super Star   QUOTE (BPearce @ Oct 18 2004, 01:38 PM)QUOTE ...   Oct 18 2004, 09:52 PM
- - arturo_gtz   QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 18 2004, 08:53 AM)QUO...   Oct 19 2004, 04:07 AM
- - JERRY BECK   QUOTE (arturo_gtz @ Oct 18 2004, 09:07 PM)Mr....   Oct 19 2004, 05:43 AM
- - arturo_gtz   QUOTE (Gordan @ Oct 18 2004, 09:50 AM)This is...   Oct 19 2004, 01:40 PM
- - The Super Star   I Guess that Means there'll be no Mammy Cartoo...   Oct 19 2004, 03:49 PM
- - babylove   While it didn't say "uncut" on the back of the...   Oct 19 2004, 04:14 PM
- - jeff_schiller   Why don't we just all wait and see what's ...   Oct 19 2004, 04:23 PM
- - babylove   One thing I should add is that it's not uncomm...   Oct 19 2004, 04:37 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   Giving the DVD a quick once-over... I went straig...   Oct 19 2004, 05:09 PM
- - Scaramanga   QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 19 2004, 07:09 PM)...   Oct 19 2004, 05:26 PM
- - Scaramanga   PS. The song is called "Frere Jacques"   Oct 19 2004, 05:30 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   Thanks for the typo fix ...and "Touche, Pussy Ca...   Oct 19 2004, 06:02 PM
- - Am01ne   I'm waiting on any purchases until Jerry's...   Oct 19 2004, 06:39 PM
- - Scaramanga   QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 19 2004, 08:02 PM)...   Oct 19 2004, 06:47 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   Conspiracy theory time: Maybe (just maybe) WB did...   Oct 19 2004, 06:55 PM
- - Scaramanga   That's the way I kinda feel too ... I guess I ...   Oct 19 2004, 07:00 PM
- - RobEB   So what about the supplements? Any good?   Oct 19 2004, 08:16 PM
- - duck dodgers   QUOTE (Scaramanga @ Oct 19 2004, 10:47 AM)QUO...   Oct 19 2004, 08:16 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (RobEB @ Oct 19 2004, 12:16 PM)So what ...   Oct 19 2004, 08:34 PM
- - LooneyThad   I wasn't expecting even THIS much for a DVD le...   Oct 19 2004, 08:59 PM
- - duck dodgers   after all,it's(hopefully) a matter of days and...   Oct 19 2004, 09:36 PM
- - LastOfTheDoDos   What's saddest is not that we here know there ...   Oct 19 2004, 11:04 PM
- - arturo_gtz   There's no doubt... the best classic shorts co...   Oct 20 2004, 03:05 AM
- - JERRY BECK   Warner Bros. Home Video is very, very upset over t...   Oct 20 2004, 03:47 AM
- - jeff_schiller   QUOTE (arturo_gtz @ Oct 19 2004, 07:05 PM)The...   Oct 20 2004, 03:51 AM
- - jeff_schiller   QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 07:47 PM)War...   Oct 20 2004, 03:52 AM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (LooneyThad @ Oct 19 2004, 12:59 PM)I w...   Oct 20 2004, 03:52 AM
- - CaptGeorge   Darned if you do, darned if don't -- eh, Jerry...   Oct 20 2004, 03:56 AM
- - JERRY BECK   QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 19 2004, 08:52 PM)...   Oct 20 2004, 04:02 AM
- - jinxey   QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 10:47 PM)I k...   Oct 20 2004, 04:34 AM
- - JERRY BECK   QUOTE (jinxey @ Oct 19 2004, 09:34 PM)I bough...   Oct 20 2004, 05:37 AM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 08:02 PM)QUO...   Oct 20 2004, 05:45 AM
- - RyanM   Thanks for the info, Jerry. I'll say it again,...   Oct 20 2004, 06:07 AM
- - Scaramanga   At least some good news comes our way ... I'm ...   Oct 20 2004, 07:01 AM
- - Dr. Madcap   QUOTE (Scaramanga @ Oct 20 2004, 05:01 PM)At ...   Oct 20 2004, 07:26 AM
- - Dr. Madcap   The Loolney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 2 that ...   Oct 20 2004, 07:41 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE What's saddest is not that we here know ...   Oct 20 2004, 07:42 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE There's no doubt... the best classic sho...   Oct 20 2004, 07:48 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE Warner Bros. Home Video is very, very upset ...   Oct 20 2004, 07:54 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 19 2004, 08:02 ...   Oct 20 2004, 08:00 AM
- - Scaramanga   This is probably a very stupid question but here g...   Oct 20 2004, 01:32 PM
- - duck dodgers   i still hope that this is an experiment to test th...   Oct 20 2004, 01:53 PM
- - jeff_schiller   I'm not sure what type of "artifacts" you...   Oct 20 2004, 01:55 PM
- - Am01ne   Mistakes are not above us, these things do happen ...   Oct 20 2004, 02:24 PM
- - Am01ne   And after typing all of that... I seriously hope t...   Oct 20 2004, 02:33 PM
- - corey3rd   QUOTE (duck dodgers @ Oct 20 2004, 05:53 AM)i...   Oct 20 2004, 03:14 PM
- - Am01ne   QUOTE (corey3rd @ Oct 20 2004, 07:14 AM)QUOTE...   Oct 20 2004, 03:26 PM
- - Scaramanga   QUOTE (jeff_schiller @ Oct 20 2004, 03:55 PM)...   Oct 20 2004, 03:32 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (jeff_schiller @ Oct 20 2004, 05:55 AM)...   Oct 20 2004, 03:33 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE So that basically comes down to the fact tha...   Oct 20 2004, 03:41 PM
- - Scaramanga   QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 20 2004, 05:33 PM)...   Oct 20 2004, 03:46 PM
- - Scaramanga   Argh ... in my above post again print and negative...   Oct 20 2004, 03:53 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (Scaramanga @ Oct 20 2004, 07:46 AM)QUO...   Oct 20 2004, 04:01 PM
- - Scaramanga   Very interesting ... thx for the explenation !   Oct 20 2004, 04:42 PM
- - RobEB   Despite the problems, this does sound like a good ...   Oct 20 2004, 05:11 PM
- - Scaramanga   The stereo track really is something .... I couldn...   Oct 20 2004, 05:14 PM
- - markantii   So these cartoons are definately all-new transfe...   Oct 20 2004, 05:26 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (RobEB @ Oct 20 2004, 09:11 AM)Despite ...   Oct 20 2004, 05:34 PM
- - markantii   Well as that's the case I think it's fair ...   Oct 20 2004, 06:02 PM
- - LastOfTheDoDos   Point taken re: Warner's customer care. They ...   Oct 20 2004, 06:02 PM
- - rkish   JERRY: Can you shed any light as to what is invol...   Oct 20 2004, 07:22 PM
- - JERRY BECK   QUOTE (rkish @ Oct 20 2004, 12:22 PM)Can you ...   Oct 20 2004, 09:33 PM
- - markantii   Mr Beck, could you confirm what has been surmised ...   Oct 20 2004, 09:53 PM
- - JERRY BECK   Due to my working arrangement with Warner Home Vid...   Oct 20 2004, 10:43 PM
- - shep70   Mr Beck could you confirm that there exist fullscr...   Oct 20 2004, 10:48 PM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE (corey3rd @ Oct 20 2004, 07:14 AM)QUOTE...   Oct 20 2004, 11:57 PM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE (Am01ne @ Oct 20 2004, 07:26 AM)QUOTE (...   Oct 21 2004, 12:01 AM
- - Gordan   A few years ago I went through the process of retu...   Oct 21 2004, 12:48 AM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (JERRY BECK @ Oct 20 2004, 02:43 PM)Due...   Oct 21 2004, 01:32 AM
- - damfino   QUOTE (Gordan @ Oct 20 2004, 04:48 PM)From my...   Oct 21 2004, 02:23 AM
- - Gordan   QUOTE (FuriousFreddy @ Oct 20 2004, 05:32 PM)...   Oct 21 2004, 02:26 AM
- - Gordan   QUOTE (damfino @ Oct 20 2004, 06:23 PM)It wou...   Oct 21 2004, 02:35 AM
- - Droopy79   To Jerry. Am I right to assume that any Replaceme...   Oct 21 2004, 06:41 AM
- - Scaramanga   QUOTE (Am01ne @ Oct 20 2004, 05:26 PM)When Vo...   Oct 21 2004, 06:53 AM
- - thebiach   anybody else notice at the end of the "Kitty Foile...   Oct 21 2004, 07:07 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE Actually, what we see on both the T&J and th...   Oct 21 2004, 07:21 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE These ARE the original Technicolor prints we...   Oct 21 2004, 07:28 AM
- - Studio Toledo   Heh, glad I didn't have any problems on my e...   Oct 21 2004, 07:55 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE (Gordan @ Oct 20 2004, 06:26 PM)QUOTE (...   Oct 21 2004, 08:03 AM
- - Studio Toledo   QUOTE (thebiach @ Oct 20 2004, 11:07 PM)anybo...   Oct 21 2004, 08:08 AM
- - noisejunkie   I got my copy of the T&J set yesterday and while I...   Oct 21 2004, 05:21 PM
- - Martin Juneau   QUOTE (Studio Toledo @ Oct 20 2004, 11:55 PM)...   Oct 21 2004, 07:58 PM
- - tnjfan   Hello all, new poster here. First off let me just ...   Oct 21 2004, 08:50 PM
- - jeff_schiller   I count about 115 Tom & Jerry shorts. There are 4...   Oct 21 2004, 09:21 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (noisejunkie @ Oct 21 2004, 09:21 AM)I ...   Oct 21 2004, 09:21 PM
- - FuriousFreddy   QUOTE (jeff_schiller @ Oct 21 2004, 01:21 PM)...   Oct 21 2004, 09:34 PM
- - Am01ne   From what Jerry and Warner Bros. have informed us ...   Oct 21 2004, 09:39 PM
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