Looney Tunes Golden Collection: Volume 5 Options

[Jeff]

It's time once again for my favorite annual announcement:

More Looney Tunes...your wish is our command. In this 4-disc set are 60 of the most hysterical Looney Tunes ever created and over 5 hours of extra special features. Indeed, some have never before been on home video! Disc 1 celebrates a duo every bit as famous as thunder and lightning or beans and weenies: Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck. Termite Terrace provides peerless takes on Fairy Tales in Disc 2. Not to be outdone, Disc 3 showcases the hilarious talent of the great animator Robert Clampett. And the fowl deeds and rabbit-fire jokes wrap with Disc 4's hamboree jamboree of Porky Pig and more classics.

# 4-Disc Collector Set with 60 classic shorts.
# Remastered and restored to their original glory and chock full of special features!
# Over 5 hours of incredible Special Features which include "Chuck Jones: Extremes and In-Betweens, A Life in Animation" the 2000 PBS documentary
# $64.92 SRP
# October 30th street date

Stay tuned for larger cover art, and more details including the list of included shorts and all of the extras!

*Swoon!*

[ohmahaaha]

It's time once again for my favorite annual announcement:

*Swoon!*

ALLELUIA, ALLELUIA, ALLELUIA!!!!!! A whole Clampett Disc!!!! Bugs & Daffy together!!! Fairy Tales - must be some Tex Avery in that one!!! Can't wait to see the details!

[flipflop711]

Instead of 5 five hours of special features, why couldn't Warner just add 5 hours of more cartoons? I think more than 15 cartoons can fit on one disc!

[LooneyThad]

Instead of 5 five hours of special features, why couldn't Warner just add 5 hours of more cartoons? I think more than 15 cartoons can fit on one disc!

The restoration budget is set at 60 cartoons a year. If you try to fit too many cartoons on a disc, the quality will greatly suffer.

[magadizer]

The restoration budget is set at 60 cartoons a year. If you try to fit too many cartoons on a disc, the quality will greatly suffer.

The first part about the budget is true, but isn't it true that since they're already putting additional material on the discs, if they replaced that with more cartoons, the quality should be the same as what we have already been getting? In other words why whould it matter whether the additional material is more cartoons or a feature like "Chuck Amuck"? Obviously if you put 40 cartoons on a disc or something like that there wouldn't be room for good quality, but if the amount of video material is the same, shouldn't quality be the same?

Josh

[dphirschler]

The first part about the budget is true, but isn't it true that since they're already putting additional material on the discs, if they replaced that with more cartoons, the quality should be the same as what we have already been getting? In other words why whould it matter whether the additional material is more cartoons or a feature like "Chuck Amuck"? Obviously if you put 40 cartoons on a disc or something like that there wouldn't be room for good quality, but if the amount of video material is the same, shouldn't quality be the same?

Josh

Sometimes the way they calculate the time of extras, they include audio commentary. So a two-hour movie with two commentaries will have four hours of extras. I would imagine something similar for the audio commentaries included in this set. Also, the extras are most likely encoded at a lower bitrate. A half-hour show might be lower resolution and a lower bitrate. So maybe they could add one, maybe two more cartoons if they took off the half-hour show.


Darryl

[LooneyThad]

The first part about the budget is true, but isn't it true that since they're already putting additional material on the discs, if they replaced that with more cartoons, the quality should be the same as what we have already been getting? In other words why whould it matter whether the additional material is more cartoons or a feature like "Chuck Amuck"? Obviously if you put 40 cartoons on a disc or something like that there wouldn't be room for good quality, but if the amount of video material is the same, shouldn't quality be the same?

My mistake - I wasn't thinking in terms of the DVD-9 format.

This post has been edited by LooneyThad: Jul 12 2007, 08:05 PM

[magadizer]

Sometimes the way they calculate the time of extras, they include audio commentary. So a two-hour movie with two commentaries will have four hours of extras. I would imagine something similar for the audio commentaries included in this set. Also, the extras are most likely encoded at a lower bitrate. A half-hour show might be lower resolution and a lower bitrate. So maybe they could add one, maybe two more cartoons if they took off the half-hour show.
Darryl

You are right that they always include the length of commentaries etc. when calculating the extra length of bonus materials. But only considering the extra video supplements, there is at least a half hour of extra material on each disc. I would be interested if these supplements are indeed at a lower bitrate, which would of course mean that they couldn't be replaced by cartoons of higher quality for equal runtime.

If there is no drop off in bitrate on the supplements, then there should be room for 3 or 4 more cartoons per disc. We are going to see 25 cartoons per disc plus limited bonus materials on the Woody Woodpecker sets after all. (But minus the commentaries and other alternate audio as well as far as I know.)

But like Thad said, the discussion is presumably all academic anyways, since WB is only restoring 60 a year from all reports. I, like some other posters, really enjoy the supplements, but I wouldn't mind at all trading them in for additional shorts from here on out. . Most of the earlier shorts released as extras on other WB DVDs look quite good. I wouldn't mind if they started releasing 10 or 20 early MM and LTs per set that were not given the full restoration, provided they were unedited. We have already gotten 2 or 3 per set in the "From the Vault."

[ohmahaaha]

The restoration budget is set at 60 cartoons a year. If you try to fit too many cartoons on a disc, the quality will greatly suffer.

Yes ... and besides that, the bonus features have been awesome, I look forward to them almost as much as I look forward to the cartoons themselves.

[flipflop711]

IMO Warners should at least stop wasting time and money on audio "extras" and spend more time and money on restoring more cartoons. I agree with eariler posts that just they can add more cartoons w/out restoring them, just keep them uncut and the "From the Vaults" cartoons can be part of the main disc. Plus does Warners always seem to screw up the restoration part?

[Brandon]

Plus does Warners always seem to screw up the restoration part?

Um.... no.

Really, Turner's "Dubbed Versions" were the major screw-up in messing around with colors. I mean look at unrestored prints of Clampett's "An Itch in Time". Elmer's clothes are purple.
Now look at Turner's "Dubbed" print. His clothes are bright green. That always puzzled me. While yes, Elmer's clothes are normally green, but on a film print, just how much age does a print need to go through for "bright green" (assuming that was the original color) to purple? Makes no sense.
However, on the DVD restored print, Elmer's clothes are bright blue. This makes a lot more sense as blue is closer to purple than green is. So on the "dubbed version" they f'ed up there.

Also, on "Daffy Duck & Egghead", on old prints, the opening disclaimer about ducks has a black backdrop. On Turner's dubbed version it's bright light blue. That doesn't seem right. BUT on the DVD restored print, the backdrop is clear black again. That looks about right. The bright blue backdrop in the dubbed version was a fowl (no pun intended) up.

[TinaMarina]

This sounds like the Golden Collection of every cartoon fans' dreams--especially since the Fairy Tale and Bob Clampett discs could give way to some of the Censored 11 cartoons appearing, preferably:

--Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarfs (could be on either the Bob Clampett disc or the Fairy Tale disc)
--Goldilocks and the Jivin' Bears (Fairy Tale disc, since this is a Friz Freleng cartoon)
--Tin Pan Alley Cats (Clampett disc, since it's not based on a fairy tale)

To me, Coal Black seems to be the one most likely on the disc set since it is a fairy tale, it is a Bob Clampett cartoon, and everyone loves it despite the racial stereotypes. The others have a chance, but it's a long shot. Then again, I said the same thing about "Mississippi Hare" appearing in volume 4 and look what happened.

If one, two, or all of them appear on the disc set, then that's great. If not, then yeah, it's a big loss, but there are other cartoons to make up for it.

[JERRY BECK]

This sounds like the Golden Collection of every cartoon fans' dreams--especially since the Fairy Tale and Bob Clampett discs could give way to some of the Censored 11 cartoons appearing, preferably:

--Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarfs (could be on either the Bob Clampett disc or the Fairy Tale disc)
--Goldilocks and the Jivin' Bears (Fairy Tale disc, since this is a Friz Freleng cartoon)
--Tin Pan Alley Cats (Clampett disc, since it's not based on a fairy tale)

I hate to break it to you... but those titles will not be appearing on Vol. 5. Sorry.

[TinaMarina]

I hate to break it to you... but those titles will not be appearing on Vol. 5. Sorry.

Aw, well. I'm still going to get the set.

[DroopyMan8605]

I hate to break it to you... but those titles will not be appearing on Vol. 5. Sorry.

Is WB still having trouble with racial stereotypes? Or is there YET ANOTHER surprise in store for diehard LT fans?

BJ